Guess the teacher should have let them fight it out! Of course, if either of the students had been injured or killed, it would be the teacher’s fault for not interceding!

Better a little burns than a teacher assaulted by the fighting students

EXCELLENT MOVE BY THE TEACHER! COPS WOULD HAVE USED A TASER AND SHOCKED THE DAYLIGHTS OUT OF THE TWO. WELL DONE. iSSUE A COMMENDATION.

“Police are reportedly investigating a claim that a teacher dumped hot tea on a 15-year-old high school student and an 18-year-old classmate after they refused to stop fighting in school.”

Why is someone three years away from legal adulthood in the same class as a kid barely into his teens? Someone’s parents obviously aren’t even checking his homework.

They should issue teachers a portable version of these : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8NMyUHlFhM.

You can’t fight when you’re covering your ears.

Good thing for them the teacher was coming from the cafeteria and not from the baseball diamond.

Leave it to the apologist to use the teacher as a scapegoat. I say give the teacher a raise and expell the brats. Put the interim superintendent on administrative leave for even considering putting he teacher on leave of any kind.

Only in our current culter would the teacher be blammed for all of this. The 18 year old is considered legal and should be arrested for fighting.with a minor.

She deserves a medal. (Doesn’t she realize 9 mm hollow-points produce a better result…?)

i meant to say “culture”, sorry for the typos

Detroit is such a filthy, nasty place. It’s the only city in the country where you can pull over to the curb on a busy street, pull down your pants, take a dump, get back in your car and drive away and nobody even notices. Stupid liberal infested tar pit.

Concur. Hooray for the teacher! Boo for the administration. Apparently, a law is needed to absolve teachers from responsibility for students’ injuries in such cases. Why should a teacher risk their own injury trying to break up fights and then suffer condemnation from the brainless school bureaucrats?

The teacher should have poured tar and feathers on those stupid kids. Bet that would have ended the fight real quick.

With the rise of teen violence, this teacher’s solution was innovative and safer than many of the alternatives. How many other students were sparred injury due to her quick thinking?
It is nice to have a new Tea Party Member!

Earl Gray to save the day.

She’d had just about enough of their Lip…ton.

Tea for two, and two for tea.

She needs “Teacher of the Year”

“How many other students were sparred [sic] injury due to her quick thinking?”

Actually, she was trying to prevent a sparring injury when she dowsed the two pugilists with her hot beverage.

Conspicuously missing in this story is what should the teacher have done? How does a teacher break up a fight between a 15-year-old and an 18-year-old? You can’t spank them. Should you ask them repeatedly to quit fighting “pretty please”? Do you slugged them or slap them in the face or beat them with a stick? Should you taser the them or squirt them with a fire extinguisher? What’s the authority figure supposed to do to protect the kids from hurting each other? So many questions and no real answers.

Hey Drudge garbage, Hastings is in the Grand Rapids area. Try trolling elsewhere

In a single day I could put an end to all of the violence at this school. Find out who the responsible party is and cane them in public just like what happened to the boy that spray painted all of those cars in Singapore. It would only be necessary to be done one time and the rest of the little miscreants would get the message. Why anyone would want to teach in an atmosphere ruled by little heathens is beyond me. Life is to short and the chances are most of these teachers are just baby sitting for worthless parents that are too busy getting drunk or high to raise their kids. Watched “Cartel” on Netflix and it was incredibly revealing. The US spends more per student than anywhere else in the industrialized world and yet in some school districts when students graduate they can’t read, write or do 8th grade math. America destroyed by design. Destroy a nation from the inside and it isn’t necessary to attack that nation from the outside.

It should be noted that Hastings is a good three hours from Detroit.
It’s a nice safe little town that has very little crime. As for the teacher. She did the right thing to break up two idiots from fighting.

In the heat of the moment things can happen. Sometimes unfortunate things, such hot tea being thrown. Still that’s better than a kid injuring the other.

She should have poured hot oil on the losers. Bullets would have been better.

this story is incomplete…we don’t know if it was a verbal fight or a physical fight. In case of a verbal fight the actions here would of been over the top. No body or person was in immediate danger.
If this was a physical fight then that changes things. It’s better to nip these fights in the bud quickly or someone can get seriously injured or the fight can gain momentum by others joining in. I think it was appropriate. It caught the attention of the of both teen juveniles an I bet any time they think about fighting in general…they will remember this. The teens are old enough to sort their situations without fighting.

They poop like that in new orleans.

And what the heck was some EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD doing in a class with a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD? And you’re a hundred percent right, COMMONSENSE, if the teacher did nothing she’d be up on charges for not interceding. Well said.

It looks like ALL of the comments agree with the actions taken by the teacher to throw her tea at the fighting students. I agree with the teacher’s actions as well. I hope the school district’s interim superintendent reads these comments.

The question of what the teacher should have done that would have been an acceptable response to the interim superintendent, is a good one. I’d sure like to hear the answer.

Three years ago I was attacked because of trying to come between two girls fighting. When one slapped my face, I grabbed her hand, broke her wrist. The bone popped out exactly how I was taught. But to be fair to her, I knocked her out so she wouldnt feel the pain. The other twit started screaming and ran off. Both were expelled because I threatened to finish the job if they came back.

If the teacher tried to physically intercede, they would have gotten a bat down by both boys, and possibly killed, not doing anything, teachers fault the loser of the fight would sue them, I am sure the teacher was no match physically for the two boys, so what was the alternative? There isn’t enough money on this planet to pay me to be a teacher in this day and age.

Good show!

A cop would have used pepper spray….she used tea, and it seemingly stopped the fight. Maybe we she arm our officers with hot tea instead of pepper spray, batons and tasers.

So kid A is attacked by kid B and Teacher throw hot tea on both kid A and kid B… Now imagine if you are attacked on the street by a mugger, does that mean you would be fine with the police firing a shotgun at you as you fought for your life filling both you and the mugger with buck shot?

Sorry, but I can’t support this. The reality in any school fight is some little SOB starts it and should be expelled, but nothing should ever be done to the kid that is trying to protect himself from an attacker.

This teacher should be fired.

This isn’t England, that teacher should have dumped coffee on em

“Teacher Accused of Pouring Hot Tea on Students to Break up Fight”

The question is notthe hot tea but did it work? The teacher probably ought to go to the kids house and do the same to his parents to get their attention on what they are raising.

The teacher should get a medal. I hope she uses her leave to be with her family.

What kind of BS is this?

So they have what some minor burns? Who really cares?
The students shouldn’t have been fighting.
If the teacher was too weak to pull the kids apart some minor burns are their price to pay.
But no the indoctrination centers of the fascist government are meant to be breeding grounds for what was once socially unacceptable behavior, evidently.
I guess another way to look at it is. At least the teacher wasn’t banging the students.
Good job police. Way took keep job security. If these kids are allowed criminal behavior now you’ll have a job later with career criminals.
It’s not as if the justice system is our biggest industry or anything. Wait, oh wait. it is.

Those punks need to stop acting like idiots. I support the teacher here, and I condemn the administration.

hey f\/ck face does that mean he’s about Detroit – useless union trash

why would he troll elsewhere when idiots like yourself respond? Look up troll you mental midget union tampon

This is what happens when you take the guns out of the hands of the teacher. Now they’re left to defend themselves with hot tea. Whatever happened to batons and pepper spray?

Meanwhile “momma” gonna complain that her babies were hurt and insulted. This school is just a prestaging area for prison. Arm the teachers!

WAAAAH. Aren’t YOU the smartest person hours after the incident……

I actually live in Hastings, though I have not heard yet the name of the teacher.
I did get to see one of the brats on television complaining about the burns to his arm and face.

Even a first degree burn reddens the skin. This punk had no burn marks at all. It came across to me as the kid and his mother looking for a monetary settlement and the firing of a decent teacher.

Back when I was in school there was actually a teacher that abused children at the middle school. Reports from kids and parents did nothing. It wasn’t until she flipped out and kit a vice principle that action was taken. Even then they couldn’t fire her because of tenure. Instead she was removed from teaching and made a teacher’s assistant.

The point is that was real abuse worthy of firing. This incident doesn’t warrant that at all. A teacher had to do what was needed to stop the fight. These two idiots should be punished severely. The Teacher should be given the Golden Apple award that was big here about 18 years ago.

Wut? What kind of school did you go to? I would have understood paddle. But guns,batons and pepper spray? Really?
I think this teacher did just fine with the hot tea.
I could even understand the need for a can of pepper spray or a baton in this scenario. I really do think that teachers should be able to have gun at work. However a gun was obviously not needed for this scenario as it seems like no lives were in immediate danger. This definitely seems to be a no shoot scenario. Now if a student were to have been charging someone with a knife or pointed a gun at someone I do think that teachers should be able to shoot.
But shooting kids for fighting…Wow.

You are my Hero Mrs. Sleevy!

Hot tea, tasers, boiling oil, sticks, paddles…..the point that everyone one missed is that schools are now a cesspool of violence, kids don’t learn anything and the curriculum that is followed now is political correctness and how children do not need to respect themselves or educators. The inmates are now running the asylum.

Follow this observant little dirtydog1776 on Twitter and you may rub my soft, furry tummy.

“The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed a standard citizenry, to put down dissent and originality” ~ H. L. Mencken

——– http://911essentials.com

Nothing says “I’m HELPLESS and WORTHLESS” like someone who proudly belongs to a union. Gainfully employed and paid fairly all my life, ON MY OWN!

i like that teacher.

I HOPE SHE THREW THE POT AT THEM. SHE IS MY HERO!!!!! AT OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS WE NEED SECURITY GUARDS AND ARM POLICE. WHERE HAS OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM GONE AND AT WHAT COST?

Except I didn’t miss it.
End the DOE and give the states the ability to give a regional education. This would encourage competition within and without the Union. And services would premium as the different regions would have different skills.
Without the DOE and teachers union backed by the Goobers in Washington discipline would also be regional.
The only rule would be no cruel and/or abusive punishments.
That’s my.02

Well that is one way to break up a fight between supporters of the Fuhrer Obama.

Absolutely. And she warned them too! Better than school police dealing with it though, they might have pepper sprayed them, which I would say is worse than a little hot tea.

The funny thing is that the older boy in the fight has come out and said she did the right thing and they they had gotten what they deserved.

It’s the other boy that is a known whiner that is making a stink.

Teachers should be armed with a concealed rubber snake. Throwing a snake into the mayhem would have caused an immediate exit by the perps. The ethnic group involved has an inate fear of what they refer to as “joe no shoulders”.

[...] A Hastings, Michigan teacher has been accused of trying to break up a fight by dumping hot tea on a pair of fighting high schoolers. [...]

Chances are they were both instigators of the fight. If you never had a fight in high school then you shouldn’t talk. Both parties are usually pushing each other until it happens.

No, the reality in any school fight today is that if you participate in a fight on school grounds, both parties are punished, not just the one who started it. And you honestly believe a teacher should be fire for pouring hot tea on two students fighting. Your example does not in anyway translate to the situation at the school. You should just get off the internet you troll.

The real question is: How hot was the coffee? Most of us coffee drinkers drink our coffee so as not to burn our lips. So, most likely the coffee was not extremely to cause significant injury to anyone.

I say, well done to the teacher.

so they’re complaining about the teacher using whatever means possible to break up a fight but not complaining about the students fighting? Guess that means they condone students being physical with each other.

That has absolutely nothing to do with it…..guns should NOT be in a school no matter who has it in their possession.

this may be the only teacher in the entire history of detroit ever who ever deserves a pay raise and i mean ever. if they were learning and fighting to get good grades or an A when things are so sour in America economically it’s one thing but if they fight each other as animals preying one on each other then they get what they deserve and the teacher did what they could to stop them with corrective action that they deserve and should be commended. put these 2 animals out of school and in a cage I say. . shame on them not on the teach up with hope, down with dopes i always slay

Right you are. The teacher would then be crucified by a bunch of leftist New York *** lawyers.

After the teacher would have poured hot tea on me, my dad would have kicked my ass.

Treating a teacher this way for doing the best she could in a bad situation sends a terrible message to teachers, would-be teachers, and students. It could have been a teachable moment for all concerned, as some comments have mentioned. What should an teacher (or any adult) do when two teens are brawling? Now there’s a substitute covering for the teacher, a sub who is probably barely keeping order in the classroom. The only winners in this case are the lawyers.

Woo Hoo! Go teacher. What was she to do?

The teacher missed and hit the younger kid who was being confronted and probably bullied, so she failed on the most basic level. Also, Women are incapable of physically breaking up a fight between adolescent boys, they are too weak.

Parents own guns to moron

Think about it people, if the tea was that hot, the teacher would not have been drinking it. The kid was probably not burned, but has a bit of redness to his skin. Whoopty do. Great job by the teacher for breaking up a fight using non-lethal weapon,

I applaud the teacher. My sister teaches in a high school and she’s been injured trying to enforce basic school rules. Perhaps the little wretches will think twice next time they decide to throw a punch while on school property.

A perfect example of how dysfunctional our public school system has become,,, I, and many like me, went through 12 years of public education and never once had the police come to school to discipline unruly students; that was the prerogative of the teachers and principal. Now-a-days the nanny-state penalizes teachers for taking action and/or not taking action.

What a waste of good tea

All of you cheering the teacher but if a parent had done this it would have been called child abuse. The problem here is why do teachers have more right to get physical with a child than a parent? Doesn’t matter how hot the tea was, or if it was right or wrong, just the fact that the teacher gets this argument when a parent would not.

I guess the only relevant question here is did it work?

Someone give the teacher an award… she should have bopped both of them in the head with the coffee mug…

If the parents did it for no good reason, then that is wrong… yes. Use some common sense here.

Your a moron.

One day hot tea and the next day hot lead.

Of course, it’s Bush’s fault.

[...] Police said they plan to forward the results of their ongoing investigation to Barry County prosecutors for review. [...]

In Hastings not Detriot. Hastings is a small town of perhaps 3500, in a fairly rural county. I live in the same county. It’s just being reported by a Detroit station after picking up the story from aGrand Rapids station.

A kid born in December after the cut off for starting kindergarten would be 18 their senior year, being 18 in high school that senior year is not all that uncommom.

Hastings not Detroit! A very lovely town of about 3500. It also is not in the Grand Rapids area as the other person correcting you says. It is at least a half hour rural drive from GR.

[...] Police said they plan to forward the results of their ongoing investigation to Barry County prosecutors for review. [...]

He did what he did to stop the students from injuring each other, possibly seriously. I am sure he would have been in trouble if they had hurt one another. Teachers are not supposed to touch a student even to separate them in a fight. This is terrible. I don’t know why anyone would want to be a teacher in the Public School system anymore.

Also please note that Hastings is fairly conservative. When the sheriff stated he would arrest anyone openly displaying a gun, including hunting guns and this was during hunting season. Thus a second amendment local citizen group marched down Main St. With their guns and no one was arrested. The entire downtown area of Hastings is about 6 by 4 or 5 blocks, and a Navity scene is still openly displayed. I realise this is not explained by any means in the article but many years ago I had a teacher explain that assume makes an a** of you and me. Never have forgotten.

“Dog: Parents own guns to moron”
lol – Dog, it’s “too” not “to”
Bark twice if you understand.

it was horrid tea

What? No stun gun?

@not your kid

Your right she should have handed them both knives. No one ever would have fought either one again.

Did you ever try to break up a fight between fighting dogs? well the teacher did about the same thing.

Good job teacher.

Another example of how Political Correctness has made people stupid. Good for the teacher. Let that be a lesson to those who want to fight in school and ignore a teacher’s warning!

Had this teacher allowed these punks to fight and someone got hurt, the teacher would have been accused of neglect.

Had the teacher attempted to physically break up the fight and in the process had touched students or she’d be accused of sexual harassment or predatory behavior.

Had the teacher called the police or security it would have been labeled and Over-Reaction.

Point is: In the world that liberals are trying to make for us,
THERE IS NO RIGHT THING AND WE ARE ALL VICTIMS.
No worries though… the union will protect.

Joe E…Legal adulthood is 18, not 21. You can vote. You can sign binding contracts. You can move away from your parents without being considered a runaway.

But as grace explained, it is not uncommon for an 18 year-old to still be finishing up their senior year.

Whatever it takes!! Fast thinking on the Teachers part! They wont forget that anytime soon, and maybe will have bad memories whenever they think of fighting again.

Good for the teacher!

Snipe, you’re a clueless azzklown.

Effective immediately, all teachers should be equipped with tasers and cattle prods.

That should quiet things down in the schools…

As for the shotgun and buckshot – personally, I prefer double AA shot in my Mossberg.

Support THAT.

Job Well Done to this Teacher!!! Our public schools are a train wreck and international embarrassment ruled by the “students” because there are no consequences for their actions for fear of lawsuits. Pass tort reform legislation, remove unions from the public sector and then immediately return paddles to the principles. It’s too late for the “everybody gets a trophy” generation but their is still time to save the next.

Hey unionboy….

I told your mama to have an abortion, but nooooooo, she wouldn’t listen.

And now we have you, a walking bloodclot.

Oh, well. Tell her I’ll drop the check off tomorrow…

correcting a typo: meant “there” not…”their”. Yes I am a graduate of the public school system.

Very much so.

Someone has been watching “Hell on Wheels”!!! LOL

Too bad the teachers aren’t allowed to carry traditional bullwhips to tame these sa vages.

Bravo. Agree totally. Nothing happens to the fighting boys and the teacher gets put on leave … we need administrators with some backbone!, and who will support their teachers. Not wimps who continue to coddle the troublemakers. Guess why our schools are in the shape they are in?

Well, it was a good indication that the teacher was not very liberal…

A liberal teacher would have given them both a Golden Shower.

You can figure it out from there, I’m sure…

Tea’s good. But some liberal will automatically take the opposite opinion and claim that hot coffee would’ve been much better.

I bet the tea was tepid, not hot.

Dog,

Not all female teachers can’t do it. My sister dropped a HS kid 50 pounds heavier than her after he touched her first. Granted she was a 3-sport varsity star in HS and an all american lacrosse player in college. It takes a special type but I do think this teacher should be commended. Minor burns are far less than what could have happened in today’s environment.

unionboy it might be Grand Rapids, but the web address is still DETROIT.cbsLOCAL.com i.e. the story is fairly local to Detroit.

Why is an 18 year old kid a “classmate” of a 15 year old? If I were the teacher I would have thrown the tea at the young one then broken the cup over the head of the older flunky. That punishment would still be lighter than these two thugs will encounter as they graduate to prison.

Tea for two

What’s the big deal. She just earned herself a PAID Holiday. Just think if the union parasite burned both the kids, she would have gotten months of PAID Holidays. I’ll tell you what. If any snot-hole union PIG teacher burned my kid with hot tea, she’d be filing for bankruptcy after i sued her and the district foe everything I could get. It’s called assault. What would you do if somebody doused you with hot tea?

Oh so its HOT water from a cup that works on these savages and not cold water from a firemans hose. Got It, Thanks for the tip

Hastings is about 98 percent white.

Kudos to the teacher. Had the fight resulted in some sort of injury, the teacher would be in trouble for that. Both of the little miscreants need to be suspended and the parents should be held responsible for their children’s actions.
Was a time when a kid in school had some respect for the authority of the teacher and were more worried that any incidents might get reported back to their parents. That’s what helped to keep the order. Now everyone gets coddled and no one is held responsible for their own actions.

If it was my kid, he wouldn’t have been involved in the first place. My hat’s off to the teacher, and while I totally oppose unions, I hope this teacher gets their full support should some cry baby parent comes looking to punish the teacher for a problem that they, the parents, are fully responsible for causing.

Those kids are lucky I am not their teacher… they both would have a hand print on the back of their head for the next 10 years.

I read comments on other sights from students who watched this fight. They said the tea was lukewarm not hot and it was the only thing she could do. They were sticking up for the teacher in this case. Even if you pour it on one, the runoff is going to catch the other person anyways. Good for the teacher. Hope the kids watching will stick up for the teacher if her job is in question.

The heck with hot tea, I think teachers should be issued taser’s! But seriously, who in their right mind would ever want to be a public school teacher nowadays? Disrespectful vermin for students, enabled by their dysfunctional parent(s), and badgered by politically correct, weak, secular progressive administrators. Why would anyone choose this???

You comparison is so far off, we are talking about two snot nose brats who apparently have not been taught how to behave. The teacher should return to work while these aholes should be sent to boot camp.

That’s my thought exactly! It also makes a difference whether the tea was actually scading hot or just very warm. Frankly, if there was this kind’a fight and the participants were refusing to stop, perhaps the police should be involved and they should be charged with assault on one another

Dog, it would seem you are a product of a mediocre education. It’s too – not to.

I don’t know. Hot tea would get my attention if I were in a middle of a fight.

I say the teacher did alright. But I would recommend a bucket of cold water next time. Would that still offend some cry baby liberals out there? You know it.

Jim RyL

Your English is greatly lacking – I believe you use You’re – not YOUR.

Hey, unionboy. Shouldn’t you be working? I forgot, your user name is unionboy. lol

Phil, Dog also should use a comma after “too”, that is….too, moron. He’s probably a Basenji and can’t bark.

It’s called HIGH SCHOOL. 15 and 18 year old teens go to school together all over the country, every day.

As for the teacher, good for her. I’m tired of seeing videos of kids beating the heck out of each other while able bodied teachers stand by and do nothing.

Sadly, schools don’t support their teachers efforts to control students and students know it. So they are allowed to do whatever they choose which disrupts education and respect towards the teachers.

When I was in college, a poly sci professor didn’t tolerate talking in class He would throw chalk at high speed, usually smashing off the walls. Nobody complained as far as I know. It was necessary !

Meanwhile in Texas, there is a new program going through legislation called “Tazers For Teachers”. That’s right, when a student is disrespectful to the Teacher, the American Flag, religion, or anything else that makes America great they get tazed!. Personally, I think it’s a long deserved bill and would love to see it become a National Bill. It’s Behavioral Modification that actually works.

Sorry folks, there is no legislation in Texas for this bill, I just picked a state at random, but I also picked a state with enough patriotism to pull off such a bill.

Wouldn’t it be nice…..

You kidding me? I think teachers are OBLIGATED to protect children from bullies and physical harm when they are on school grounds as in loco parentis is well established in the schools. If my child was the one getting beaten up and was injured I would sue the school and the teacher along with the bully…they are supposed to be acting in the place of parents and what reasonable parents would not break up such a fight?

Meanwhile in Texas, there is a new program going through legislation called “Tazers For Teachers”. That’s right, when a student is disrespectful to the Teacher, the American Flag, religion, or anything else that makes America great they get tazed!. Personally, I think it’s a long deserved bill and would love to see it become a National Bill. It’s Behavioral Modification that actually works.
Sorry folks, there is no legislation in Texas for this bill, I just picked a state at random, but I also picked a state with enough patriotism to pull off such a bill.
Wouldn’t it be nice…..

I thought you were supposed to use a water hose when animals act out.

Roger clearly didn’t read the rest of the comments where it has already been explained that many, if not most high school seniors are 18 before they graduate because of the early cut off dates for school entrance. Almost everyone in my graduating class celebrated their 18th birthday during senior year. It doesn’t mean anyone is a flunky.

Get the freakin phones out of the school!!

Sometimes the animals at the zoo need to be scolded with hot liquid. If these freakin kids can not act appropriately then do what you need to do to gain control of the school. The other children who attend the school shouldn’t have to be subjected to aholes. They are there to learn if you can’t get with the program then get scolded with some tea then get expelled.

She shouldn’t have poured tea on them at all. She should have beat them with a stick instead!

at what point do people realize that the best course for your children is home-schooling or private school?

Do people actually realize how idiotic and uncaring most public school teachers really are? Let’s all be honest: Of the few dozen i had during my primary and secondary school career, only a handful had any sort of meaningful positive impact on their students; most of them were there because their positions allowed them to bully someone else’s kids for several hours each day or because they wanted the gold-plated pension on offer. I can assure you, most of these people don’t do anything for the kids.

Perfect example as to why Corporal Punishment should be reinstated in schools. It should be mandatory and if a school refuses then pull their funding. Whenever a kid in a class can verbally abuse or physically abuse a teacher and nothing happens to said student you know the liberal unions have not taken care of said union member….why am i not surprised. Unions need to go!

The teacher is an idiot and so are most of the commenters praising her. Do this to a Gitmo detainee and you’re the same people that would be crying about torture.

If your neighbor did it to her children at home, you’d call CPS and claim its abuse.

So why does it make sense here?

The bottom line is the teacher acted inappropriately. When two children are fighting, you don’t make matters worse. The adult is supposed to act like an adult, to think through their actions and make sound decisions. She did neither.

If she wasn’t physically capable of breaking up the fight, she had no business getting between them. Cops wait for backup when the situation is too much for one to handle. This mental midget should have done the same.

I believe this tracher did the right thing, and if re-elected I would like to give each teacher a warm cup of sudsy soap water to throw on these little dung beetles so they can get a bath at the same time.

I throw hot liquid on my wife michelle all the time. Sometimes I let Joe B watch

Fred! Stop looking at your computer in the basment and doing your poundy hip actions all over the furniture! Come upstairs and let nana clean you up while she sips her hot tea

As Oscar Wilde supposed said, “Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit”.

When dealing with animals…you need a whip and chair…not tea.

Who would ever teach in Detroiet or Philly. The teacher needs to be taught where the airport is and given a ticket out of that cesspool.

Public school, the longer they are there the more money the school gets

I don’t see how you can praise the teacher for this. No, the students should not have been fighting. But to pour a hot beverage on them is reckless and unprofessional. If I ever see your children fighting, should I pour my coffee on them? What if it looked like they might hurt themselves? Should I hurt them, so that they might stop hurting themselves?

If we catch someone speeding at the freeway, should we stop their recklessness by utilizing the police’s “pit maneuver” and forcing them off the road, thereby endangering them more? Or maybe should we simply inform law enforcement, and let them do their jobs?

A teacher should not risk injury by intervening if he/she feels doing so could endanger him/herself. That doesn’t mean, however, that we should “absolve teachers from responsibility for students’ injuries” when the student’s injuries were a direct result of the teacher’s actions.

Better a pair of handcuffs than some “little burns”.

We used to throw water on dogs to break them up. Perhaps this practice has progressed to hot tea when dealing with animals nowadays.

Wow. You would shoot two students for fighting? One of which is a kid… Were they kicking each other in the face? Were they smashing bricks on each other’s heads? Were they using knives or other sharp objects as weapons? Were they threatening innocent bystanders? Or were they two kids probably fighting over a girl/sports/other pubescent ideals?

Have you ever shot anyone? It’s not as fun as it is in Call of Duty. Trust me on this; I have personal experience. You shoot someone only when lives are in danger.

[...] Superintendent Michelle Falcon released a statement, reported CBS Detroit, saying, “We are always really endangered for a reserve of a students and staff. We are now in a [...]

She is a teacher in Hastings, Michigan which is about two and a half hours from Detroit.

The report was wrong they weren’t classmates and the fight happend before the school day even started.

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I got a lot of Indian fndreis here. Most of them think about money and prestige, they have no love for other things. They’re smart though, and so laid-back. Some of them, however, are unbelievably artsy and symbolic. But yeah, they’re a rising Nation. In addition to Bollywood and Software Development, they’ve recently ventured into automobile (Tata Nano, the cheapest car in the world) as well. As for Americans, I don’t know why they’re called open-minded, liberal, and immoral. There’s a lot of bigotry here, labeling, and prostitution is also illegal. I think people just watch too many movies. That’s all.

Hi sonoeme. Not really. I did not base it on that. I just used it as an example. It’s just that most of my friends abroad always tell me that people’s first impression of them is like that.But yeah, I feel you especially re your last paragraph. Most of my non-Pinoy friends always tell me that some of their lot find our being-so-proud-yeah-we’ll-rub-it-in when it comes to our achievements annoying sometimes, especially on the Web.and the Kurakot part. the sadder part is, you know there’s truth in that.Hey, thanks for dropping by. I appreciate your comment. It makes me rethink a number of things, actually.

Your story is elriey familiar, only I inherited mine at this age..& he has attachment problems on top of it all due to a rough start in life. He is now almost 16 & we are FINALLY making real, true progress for him with the school district. We’ve had some great teachers along the way & some awful ones. I know I don’t have it in me to homeschool him (although I homeschool my daughter so she wouldn’t have to go to the middle school after the awful experience he had there). Homework used to take 2 -4 hours & he battles me more than anyone else..so I battled the school district. Good for you for taking it on! I am in awe of you & pray you have a better outcome than we’ve gotten from the schools.

OK, so I don’t have a great story, but I want those tickets! My fnciaee and I have been together for about 9 years, and finally got sick of the So when are you getting married barrage from family & friends. So we talked about it, decided it’s about freaking time, and went ring shopping. Suddenly, girls I barely know are squealing and giving me uncomfortably long hugs, and I’m a little tired of the whole wedding idea already. Then I stumbled on the Indie I Do show, and fell in LOVE with the idea! I’m going whether I get the free tickets or not (although free tickets would be nice), in the hopes that I find some original ideas that might make eloping seem less appealing.

If public eadiutcon were subject to the competition of the free market, those bureaucratic rules would be unnecessary, because parents would hold a bad principal accountable by sending their kids to a different school the next year. I agree with some of your ideas but not this one. I teach in a setting where kids expect high grades for mediocre performance and get their parents to advocate for them if they fall short. It is the teachers with high expectations that end up targeted under such a dynamic.

All teachers sohuld be judged and evaluated objectively. Good, skilled teachers sohuld be valued, and compensated fairly; poor teachers sohuld be directed to other vocational opportunities. Unfortunately, the teachers unions view all teachers as the same, regardless of skilled or dedication to their students. Unions justify this vision of equanimity by virtue of some undefined social fairness doctrine. But, life, the universe and everything just ain t fair! As in any endeavor, there are very good teachers and truly awful teachers; unions and tenure are cloaks hiding and protecting many of the latter. Unions pursue political power by virtue of the number and activism of their members. This is why we occasionally see teacher abandon their students to demonstrate and sit in the foyer of state capitol buildings. Teachers will never achieve the status as true professional or merit the respect of society they deserve as long as they continue to pursue those goals under the mantle of organized labor . Other professions (doctors, accountants, even lawyers) submit to rigorous review by peer organizations and professional standards licensing boards. They do not collectively organize posing as oppressed workers . My message to the good, dedicated, hard working teachers is: Throw off the burden of collectivism, abandon the drag of protecting the incompetent in your ranks and demonstrate the true value of your endeavors to the society. That will pay great dividends in compensation and respect for your profession.

Thanks for the comments, all.Bombayite…..the tsiuqeon is….why should the role of the government in education be completely superseded by private institutions or private charity? There is a role for charity in this world. And private institutions should be free to ply their trade. But there’s no guarantee that their schools will support the education of all, especially the poor. There should be at least a decently good education for all, especially the poor (who cannot afford it). And every “developed” country in the world (the US included) has managed that with decent public schools. Frog….you ask “How does their being election poll officials help them wield power”. In three ways. 1) Since they control the booth, if they are aligned with any particular party, they allow “booth capturing” by that party. 2) They can enable “vote stuffing”, of voters absent. 3) They can actively prevent voters of known ideology (if against the party of their own choice) from voting. There are other ways too when they can influence elections. Because of this they are heavily courted by grassroots politicians. They’re also important people in village politics because of this.At the college level….you’re sometimes right. There are many good teachers in govt colleges (i went to one myself)…..but the system has been changed substantially there.Michael…….i liked the way you put the comment through. But about apathetic parents…..sometimes, it cant be helped. The parents often are themselves illiterate, and have never even been inside a school. They have no idea what an education is. So, how do you think they can all be involved, and helpful? You’re bang on target about local control. True for many things……a big top-down approach rarely works.Srikanth……Digvijay Singh had many merits as well as demerits. But he did try to reform the educational sector. During his time, the teacher absentee rate in MP dropped (from being amongst the worst in the country, to actually the best in the country, with a 10-12% absentee rate). But his measures were extremely unpopular with the teachers. The MP teachers union directly opposed him. Singh blames them for his loss in the elections. I don’t know how much of that is true.

I wonder, how many of the folks totiung public ralease of VAM data would favor publication of similarly flawed data on their own job performance. I know that reporters argue they are not public employees, but the fact is, every time I buy a newspaper or magazine contribute to that journalist’s salary. Am I not then entitled to know how effective’ that journalist is, and how much value he or she contributes to the publishing enterprise? Similarly, Dr. Hanushek’s university received public funding in various programs and departments. I don’t know whether he has directly received publicly funded grants, but as an employee of the University (which has and does), shouldn’t I get to see his VAM rating? Let’s face it, this cuts both ways.As a teacher who has had students deliberately blow the tests (and admit it, even brag to their friends about it), I resent the co-dependent thinking that makes me responsible for someone else’s choice to learn or not. I spend hours every day teaching my students with disabilities that they have choices to make, all of whic carry consequences whether good or bad. I do not make those choices for them, nor does anyone else. If an individual does not find value in education and learning, please teach me how to change that (and pray that I care enough to learn, lest you be rated ineffective ), or else accept that it is beyond my control.

I taught in both puiblc and private schools during a 41 year period of time. The latter part of my experience was in school administration. In private school I paid 5 % of my salary toward retirement and 5% toward a medical plan. The School system paid a matching amount. I felt it was a fair deal. In puiblc school I paid 5% of my salary toward retirement and 7% toward medical for the first 8 years of my experience. The state changed all that and had the school system pay all to the retirement. Medical stayed the same. As far as quality teachers goes. puiblc schools have better teachers. As an administrator I was able to terminate teachers who were ineffective, but it took a lot of time to complete the process. Florida now has in place a good system of hiring new teachers. They are on probation for three years. A principal can terminate them any time during that three year period. Most people have no idea how to judge teacher performance, particularly politicians

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