If you point a gun with or without an orange tip at a cop, expect to be shot. Not sure we need a law, sounds more like natural selection..

You point anything resembling a weapon at a police officer, 2 things are for certain: 1. You are really, really stupid. 2. You deserve exactly what you get. End of story.
You simply cannot legislate stupidity…no new laws are going to rectify this situation.

This legislation will have NO effect on people doing stupid things. IF you modify a toy gun to look like a real gun, then point it at a cop, you deserve to be shot. What will the state do then, charge the dead bad-guy with a misdemeanor?

None-the-less, the legislation should be passed for those incidents that don’t end in tragedy.

If a cop will shoot you when you’re unarmed, or with a baby in your hands, then I don’t think they really care if your gun has an orange tip.

Typical knee jerk reaction from the leftists who like to take away peoples liberty and freedom because YOU ARE TOO STUPID to run your own life

“The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury.” ~ George Washington

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That is funny. It is legal for a real gun, but a toy gun is illegal! they have no jurisdiction over real guns! but, cap guns , yes!!! what idiiots.

This is idiotic, the country is how old and has had toy guns since day one, What we need to do is have open carrry nationwide for anyone who is not a convicted felon, the crime rate would drop down dramatically.

Tyranny is here…

Whats next, banning knives and ball bats?

This silliness reminds me of buildings with decals on the doors saying no guns allowed. That’s as dumb as the day is long.

Law abiding citizens will obey the decals, the criminals won’t. So you have a scenario where a criminal is engaged in crime using a firearm, yet the law abiding citizen who may have a concealed-carry permit is unable to offer life-saving assistance.

THat republican moron, or mormon, needs to be voted out. You can’t legislate stupidity. IT’s not going to work.

When I was in high school back in the 80′s – Gunsmithing was actually an elective…you see we didn’t have kids shooting eachother in school…oh and there was 1 pregnant girl in our whole highschool of about 1200 kids. When my brothers were little – they played with real revolvers that dad modified so it was not possible to actually fire them. Man those were good times.

Your problem is n-words, not toy guns. Stop the welfare and the n-words will leave.

What in the hell is wrong with MI and Detroit, do we need to say more?

democRats ……..

Dumb Ideal!
If you use a toy gun in the commission of a crime it is still consider a real gun by the Law and Law Enforcement!
Just another law the Criminals and Gang member will ignore!

No More Laws – Not Even For Toy Guns – Loved my cap pistols:
“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.” Thomas Jefferson
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone. 3. Colt: The original point and click interface. 4. Gun control is not about guns; it’s about control. 5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords? 6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. 7. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms. 8. If you don’t know your rights, you don’t have any. 9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither. 10. The United States Constitution (c)1791. All Rights Reserved. 11. What part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand? 12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others. 13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday. 14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians. 15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety. 16. You don’t shoot to kill: you shoot to stay alive. 17. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer. 18. Assault is a behavior, not a device. 19. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer. 20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson. 21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them. 22. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for. 23. When you remove the people’s right to bear arms, you create slaves. 24. The America Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

I’m a leftist and I oppose both laws like this and gun control in general. There’s no legislating intelligence and no trading liberty for security. What’s being paraded around by the MSM as “left” and “right” these days is neither- just an unholy alliance between big government and big corporations. It’s time the real left and right set aside differences and recognize our common enemy.

What a contrast! In Arizona, we can walk around with a concealed real handgun without needing a license or a permit.

In crime-ridden Detroit, you get arrested for carrying a toy gun.

Why would anyone want to live in Detroit, especially now that Ob*ma has nationalised the car industry (except for Ford)?

No. The problem is the Democrat party. Until Johnson’s Great Society programs, black families were intact, and healthy.

As Lyndon Johnson once said: “I’ll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years”

Indeed. They ‘fear for their life’ upon encountering children, old ladies, disabled people and those in diabetic shock. Shoot to kill with hollow points, delay medical aid until bleed out and a consensus on what goes into a report is made. Works every time, unless those pesky cell phone cameras are present.

Yeah, like that will stop the problem. Moronic fools.

In California a friend of mine who plays baseball all the time was cited for having a concealed weapon in his car when an officer saw the baseball bat behind the seat while giving him a speeding ticket. so bats are already illeagle and in England knives are too they even have a knife Czar

“Supporters of the proposed legislation have also cited a recent case where a police officer was forced to shoot a gang member who was aiming a toy gun without its required markings. Jones believes this proposal will be vital in preventing incidents such as this from occurring in the future.”

Jones most definitely does not believe this, otherwise Jones would be a certifiable mental case. Jones is only saying he believes this because Jones thinks that more gun laws on the books can only be good for the anti-gun cause, whatever they may be, or however stupid they are. Jones is an a$$hole. Boy, I really despise Jones.

Of course …it is after all, San Francisco, who else would be stupid enough to do something like…What…your Kidding…Detroit.

What a dumb idea. Must be National Do Nothing In The Legislature Day.

Youre not a leftist then MONTY JACK. Welcome to the Libertarian Party…. the genisis of the conservative movement.

I’m suspicious Senator Jones may be a moderate Republican, or even a liberal Republican. This sort of nonsense typically comes from the left.

EXCALLENT!!!!!

Yeah I know, cops are evil killers and the cause of all of the violence in the “inner citaaay”

“If the legislation is passed, people who possess these toy guns and use it to commit a felony, would be punishable for up to 18 months behind bars and be subject to fines”

I don’t understand; isn’t committing a felony – regardless of the presence of a toy gun – already punishable?

Detroit will be the first American city under Sharia Law before the end of this decade.

If people wont give up their real guns that they have illegally, what will this do?

The only thing anyone can do to fix Detroit is to stop giving people money for not working. This problem is in the unions and government. Being from Farmington I can tell you everyone in lower Michigan knows the unions killed manufacturing in Michigan, they just cost too much for a company to afford. If I was wrong Toyota and BMW (probably more but im not writing a research paper) would not profitably be building cars all over the US right now. Lets segue back to the original point, a job is probably the best remedy for real gun problems so instead of acting busy talking about fake guns maybe they should get busy taking power away from the unions and putting people back to work.

Threatening people is a crime. Making a toy gun illegal will have the same effect with the criminal as outlawing real guns…another law for them to ignore.

How about instead of criminalizing owning toys, we just up the penalty for using a fake gun while committing a crime to what it would be if you use a real gun?
And let’s not consider it such a travesty if a police officer shoots a gangster that is threatening someone with a gun that turns out ot be fake…it’s called assumption of risk, people.
…and why isn’t it considered a good thing that the idiot gangsters are pointing fake guns at police officers instead of real ones?

When I was a child, the police had no problems distinguishing between toy guns and real ones. I had a Luger squirt gun and a M-3 submachine cap gun. We had a shooting range in our high school basement. Real firearms were routinely carried on school buses on their way to shop class where they would get new stocks, new bolts, firing pins, etc.

But that was when America was a free country.

This proposed law is just another good reason to stay out of cities.

Though I completely agree with you, that’ll never happen.

Labor Unions provide Democrat candidates with HUGE sums of campaign contributions. The Democrats will NEVER give up on that, let the American worker be d*mned!

Detroit makes the best case I can think of for mandatory contraception.

Detroit is rotting to its bones and the Democrat legislators continue to argue about how many angels will fit on the head of a pin. Disgusting.

The bigger the city, the more dysfunctional AND Democratic it is.

I know, I’m from one of the largest cities in the US and my wife is from another. Both cities are a colossal mess, and totally controlled by Democrats!

Biggest cover up in history?

Toss up between 9-11 being an inside job and the ineligible Barry Soetoro acting as U.S. president with a forged birth certificate and an impossible Connecticut SS number.

Nobody in Detroit will obey Sharia law either.

Just make them join the union when they point a toy gun. Get em around real thugs so they learn to play with the real thing and not confuse people next time.

this site is faux commentary.

I don’t know. Muslims don’t play around. When you see a bunch of street thugs missing one of their hands and missing the opposite foot, and a few headless bodies laying around, that’ll get their attention.

Im trying to find the issue. Gang-banger gets shot while committing a crime…

My only regret in that situation is the paperwork and legal hassles that the armed citizen or officer is forced into by the perp.

Also, the more a city deteriorates, the MORE Democratic it becomes, as productive people flee and parasites remain (and swarm in). It happens at the state level, too (cf. Mexifornia).

The only real question is, What happens when the city government is reduced to asking a population of parasites to support a population of parasites? A federal bailout is the only possible answer, so we’ll see whether Obama thinks Detroit is “too big to fail.”

Dear Detroit,
Why do you keep voting these leftist loons in decade after decade. They have made themselves rich on the backs of the poor thru graft,crony capitalism and incompetence. Try a Republican next time. Give them a chance. Mr. Herman Cain has a plan for inner city job growth and hopefully Republicans will adopt it. Republicans support voucher programs for schools. President Obama took away the voucher program in Washington DC after one week in office. I guess he did not think that poor kids with good grades should go to schools with his children. Detroit there is another kind of bias and predjuduce today and it is an elite academic few who think that they can make decisions that will keep us poor and uneducated, while protecting the priveleged elite rulers and the politically connected class. Wake up, Detroit, stop being used, vote Republican and be lifted out of poverty.

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stupid liberal ploy,, anyone that would point a toy at police as a threat is probably to stupid to be living anyway and if your pointing a real one , well hope your a good shot or you will be filled with those said same hollow point, many of them . But a law to make toy gun illegal are you F****k**G kidding

when an old lady shoots and kills you, i guess it will sink in that cops have a hard job.

For a guy that used to consider himself a right-wing conservative MJ, I couildn’t agree with you more. As JRock said, we’re not left, we’re Libertarians. Welcome aboard!

If just being stupid becomes a crime, a lot of people are going to be doing life without parole.

What happens when the gang members modiffy their REAL guns by putting an orange tip on them and then they end up murdering a cop because the cop thought it was a toy? If anyone points ANY gun at a cop, they have to expect to get shot.

After I got my Concealed Weapons License and start caring ALL the time my dad expressed some concern. He was concerned that the weapon would possibly cause more problems than it would solve or prevent.

So I simply told him that I had thought that trough and came to this conclusion.

“ The consequences of using my weapon will be far less that the consequences of NOT USING it.”

Threatening people with a toy gun sure sounds like a quick way to start a long dirt nap, something that should be promoted in the gang community.

Want to lower crime in Detroit? Want to take it to near zero? Outlaw being black in Detroit.

Next they will make oregano a crime, since it can be mistaken for weed.

I’m glad I live in a Red State where my elected officials do what they should do: MANAGE THE MONEY I GIVE THEM!! These socialist Nanny Staters with their pet causes need to be ignored.

Better yet, put a razor wire fence around it and let them kill each other out of sight, out of mind.

True story: A few years ago where I live, a couple street thugs burst into a Wallgreens carrying a 12 gauge shotgun. A patron was in line happened to be carrying a concealed weapon. He handled the matter, and killed the thug carrying the shotgun. The other one ran, but was later apprehended.

Article quote: “cited a recent case where a police officer was forced to shoot a gang member who was aiming a toy gun without its required markings. Jones believes this proposal will be vital in preventing incidents such as this from occurring in the future.”

Why would you want to stop and incident like that? A dead gang member is a good thing.

By the way, I’m pretty sure that robbery is a crime already, I don’t think a toy gun law is going to stop a criminal from committing a crime. Same with banning real guns…the only ones who have them then are the criminals.

Not that I am worried about only gang bangers getting toy guns. The point was this proposed law is stupid.

Only in the city where liberals have been in charge for over 50 years would it be necessary to make a squirt gun illegal.

Yeah, that’s what Detroit needs to solve its problems.

Friggin’ morons.

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This sounds to me to be a issue of the need for more guns and not less guns. If there were more law-abiding citizens who CCW, when they tried to hold up someone using a toy gun, they would be shot and killed. Problem solved. Percentage of repeat offenders: 0%. You can’t cure stupid with picture signs.

Well said

They should make having a tiny, ignorant brain a crime in Detroit, then you could get rid of the majority of the criminals (Black, of course), the Mayor, and the City Council Members. After that, just let nature take it’s course and the remaining criminals will be shot on sight.

All the laws in the world cannot control those who cannot control themselves. Laws are made for people who can control themselves. This is just another law the bad will ignore and will take away the rights of the good people.

Well, if you modify a toy gun, point it at a cop, get shot dead, at least you don’t have to do the 18 months! See that’s a Win-Win

Another example of brilliant thinking by progressive democrats that has done so much to keep crime rates down in places like Detroit, the District of Columbia and Southside Chicago!

Just another example of lawmakers with too much time on their hands. What are we going to outlaw next, water guns? Absolute waste of taxpayers time and money.

CAN I PAINT THE END OF MY GLOCK ORANGE?

wow this is just stupid.. from Obama land no doubt…

Why can’t they just make it illegal to be black? Head all this uppityness off at the start.

Note to self: Buy a toy gun for seeding bodies with, it is cheaper than a real drop gun.

It’s only “high cover” for the cop to have a “justifiable shooting”.
The fact is, I agree with the natural selection comments above.
Dad used to say, don’t point a gun at anything you don’t intend to shoot; don’t shoot anything you don’t intend to kill, and, eat what you kill. When I went to the Marines during Vietnam, I asked him if that included the VC.

So a 6 year old kid points a cap gun at a cop and you feel this child should be shot… I fail to grasp your logic.

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I’ve got a better idea, issue concealed carry permits to the law abiding citizens there . When some brain dead gang banger pulls out his toy and threatens someone, he’ll have half a dozen real guns pointing at his head and will only hope his slimy brains aren’t blown out.

Makes perfect sense to me… play stupid games win stupid prizes.

If the 6yo has removed/erased/modified the toy marking, they can expect the cops to respond as if it were real if it looks real.

Exactly, its a simple thing called common sense.
In this type of economy, anything goes to make an extra buck.
Everyone is for safety but this is just plain common sense, no law needed

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Agreed. And when a kid does this and gets shot — blame his parents — not the cop.

As if gang members already threatening people with toy guns are going to adhere to a law that makes it a crime to remove markings from a toy gun so it looks real. Morons.

What do you expect from a bunch of ghetto apes? Shoot them all who cares they are useless members of society and have given up their right to coexist with the rest of the civilized world.

That’s because cops are in “law” enforcement instead of “rights” enforcement.

WHERE IS EVERYONE’S COMMON SENSE??????

Actually, I AM in favor of gun control. Disarm the government. Arm the people. Order a pizza and pull up a stool. Justice is finally COMIN’ TO TOWN!

SInce it is already a law to mark toy guns with an orange tip, it seems “kinda sorta even more stupider” to enact a law to make it a crime to break the existing law! Criminals have already decided to break the law, they are not going to honor your 2nd-layer law.

Why don’t they get the guns from the gangs, who kill people ! Don’t punish the kids. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DON’T TEACH RELIGION ! AND TAKE THE FLAG AND OUR HISTORY OUT OF THE SCHOOLS. NOW WE HAVE PRISONS FULL OF KIDS. NO HISTORY ! NO GOD = BAD PEOPLE !

“Supporters of the proposed legislation have also cited a recent case where a police officer was forced to shoot a gang member who was aiming a toy gun without its required markings. Jones believes this proposal will be vital in preventing incidents such as this from occurring in the future.”

ARE YOU KIDDING? If someone points a gun that looks real at anyone, they should EXPECT to get shot! What a stupid proposal. It’s a heck of a lot better to shoot a gang thug who’s threatening someone with a toy gun than it is to encourage the thugs to go ahead and get real guns cause the toy ones are ‘illegal.’ Morons.

@LTCB: Your dad and my dad taught the same thing. Our toy guns were obvious toys … shiny “revolver” cap guns or wooden homemade guns. If I bought my six year-old a Glock toy and removed the orange tip, it’s on me that my son gets shot by the police. Take some responsibility for your actions, America. Would you buy your son a machete and send him out to play?

Please. Have you ever heard of a cop in this country feeling threatened by a six year old? A six year old would put the gun down if a cop told him to.

No kidding! If a gang member is going to commit armed robbery with a toy gun do they honestly think this law will prevent them from removing the orange tip?

I can see it now: Gang member #1:”Yo dawg ! lets go jack those people!”

Gang Member #2 “aw man, I can’t. I only have a toy gun and it would be illegal for me to remove the orange tip”

What a waste of time and money.

Useless politicians and scabby bureaucrats.

They should outlaw passing Moronic laws while they are at it..And Change the name of the City to “Doom” !

Lawmakers are also considering banning broom sticks. Often the sticks have wood shavings removed from on end to give them the appearance of spears.

Wouldn’t it be simpler to simply restrict the sale of toy ammunition to minors?

When toy guns are outlawed, only juvenile delinquents will have toy guns.

Hi Drafter,
So the cop charged your buddy with carrying a concealed weapon for a piece of sports equipment he saw in plain view?
I do believe you. It is just a shame!

The next time we roll our Abrams tanks into battle, we should paint their 105 mm barrel tips orange. We’ll catch them by surprise.

For now, I’m selling my Orange Paint futures short.

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Negroes shooting other negroes every day and these idiots want to ban toy guns. How many white kids have been taught not to point any gun at a cop? Apparently this information has not made its way into the hood. LOL

Idiotic Democrats.

Nope, I’m still not convinced. I need more reasons to not move to Detroit….

akw, you’re an idiot. Don’t you know that the whole reason the toy industry now uses an orange tip on toy guns stems from a real incident of a cop shooting a child in CA, when the cop thought the kid had a real gun?

Heres the anatomy of the SCAM:

““This is an important package to control this problem,” Jones said.”

No it isnt, because there is no problem. One or two instances does not a “problem” make, unless one WANTS to make a problem.

Having laws that apply higher penalties to, for example, using a gun to rob a store is no problem. A robber could do more damage with a gun than not a gun.

IF the laws were written to SPECIFY “posessing a firearm in comission of some larger cime” then that would be great.

But heres where the traitorous anti gun agenda (both Liberal AND CONservative) comes into play – they “conveniently” leave off the part about “in the context of some other crime.

That plays into the un Constitutional anti gun agenda as it can then be used to infringe on Citizens Rights to Bear Arms on some flimsy excuse of “might do something”

Just POSESSING a toy gun is not a problem (never mind there is no such thing as a “toy gun”) unless the State wants to control everyones PROPERTY.

“Wouldn’t it be simpler to simply restrict the sale of toy ammunition to minors?”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH EXCELLENT POST

Um, except that there’s already laws against felons having real firearms.

Talk about ‘deck chairs on the Titanic”. Will the last sane person to leave Detroit hit the lights on your way out?

So they paint the end of a real gun ORANGE and its OK?

Stupidity and incompetence factor = 100 here.

The first excuse for this law is that gang members are doing this? Seriously? Does anyone see the faulty logic here? Gang members tend not to follow laws haha, why would gang members pay any heed to this? They are already committing robbery! Wow. These people think the solution to all life’s problems is to scribble things down on paper and hope that that somehow magically translates into the desired effect.

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I guess if they dont make toys everyone real resort back to the real thing. What a great law.

CC permits are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Why do you advocate more unconstitutional laws?

If everyone carried OPEN GUNS, the perp wouldnt even THINK of drawing in the first place.

Youve bought into the Identity Group called the Police State

The entire premise is a LIE:

“police officer was forced to shoot a gang member who was aiming a toy gun ‘

No, no police officer is REQUIRED to shoot at someone who is UNARMED. A toy gun means “un armed” because the gb cannot possibly shoot anyone with a fake gun.

this is ass covering after the fact, they blew away an UNARMED MAN and are looking to excuse it.

Stupid liberals are ruining a great nation… land of the free my butt!

Exactly, which is why this is a scam, its an attempt to, in the future, exonerate any cop that kills someone ‘armed’ with a toy.

How many Caucasians are left in that latrine, anyway? Good Lord, Detroit is a microcosm of liberal idiocy.

THANK YOU. You state FACT.

Its become Organized Crime

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“2. You deserve exactly what you get. End of story.”

And what is the LEGAL penalty for pointing a non gun at someone?

Im quite sure its not EXECUTION IN TEH STREETS.

In fact, NO cop has any right to carry out sentences in the streets, thats how it worked in Communist Cuba.

I think you need the help of a shrink to deal with your lack of respect for others lives.

Pictures of guns are next right?

They’re not getting my Fanner 50 from the 50s except from my cold dead hands.

If you’re buying your kids realistic looking guns and then not supervising them while they point their realistic guns at cops,then its your fault if your child gets shot.

Stupid is as stupid does. Teach the kid not to point the gun at anyone he’s not playing with. DUH.

all gang members should be issued toy guns with the orange tip cut off, this is great!

Leave it to the brainiacs in Detroit to come up with yet another stupid law. Criminals don’t obey laws anyway, so it’s a certainty that this won’t phase ‘em any.

6 yr olds can and do get real guns.. the “baby daddy” of the week leaves ‘em lying around while he’s “gettin’ busy” with the breeder mammy..

Children have shot and killed adults, and other children. Point what looks like a real gun, with or without an orange tip, at anyone, not just a cop, and you should get shot. Blame the parent, blame the teachers, don’t blame the person shooting in self defense.

I’m sure all the criminals will obey this law, just like they obey all other laws. Yeah, right!

Yawn..I thought Detroit was closed-down by now. Even if not, they have real problems, that don’t include toys.

Believe it or not, I actually read that. It was simply SO bad I couldn’t stop. It boggles the mind how one could possibly enough time on their hands to come up with all that bovine excretus, yet not have time to get their anti-psychotic med prescriptions refilled.

Yes, ban all toy guns.
That will show those gangs…
This is why I vote Republican.

Oh please… Detroit police cannot control all of the real illegal guns on the streets, and now some moron wants them to waste their time by trying to track down and arrest people carrying toy guns? What fresh hell is this…

I think the TAX PAYERS need to VOTE out to D@M many LAWMAKER’S,every thing is voted on lasr min. vote based on who gave them the most money. Cut 1/2 the LAWMAKERS out of the system!

They should call the law “The Desperation Act”

Just ban the toy ammo…problem solved.

Once again, Big Government telling us what is good for us….. Blame it on Obama

EXACTLY. and my parents taught us that as little children, and we taught ours the same way. We did not buy toy guns that resembled real guns either! But nevertheless the same rule applied. They could play war and cops and robbers, cowboys and indians, with each other, and with us in a game but not at any other time. And we all knew the difference.

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So if you are a cop, and someone points a gun at you without any markings to indicate it might be a toy, you are suppose to calmly put your gun away, then proceed to put your own life in the hands of the badguy that you “THINK” just MAYBE, he might be carrying a toy gun. Glad I’m not a cop there and will be faced with that decision….I can tell you what my choice would be…”Double Tap”

Must be lead in the drinking water. No wonder people are leaving Detroit like rats from a sinking ship.

LOL…wow Detroit is doomed by its incredibly stupid voters….look at you detroit , run by liberals for years and your a total mess. Yet you keep voting them in…and now this…I GUESS CRIMINALS HAVING REAL GUNS IS ACCEPTABLE, ITS THOSE DARN TOY GUNS YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT??? SOMEBODY MIGHT GET SHOT BY ONE OF THOSE TOYS…..PATHETIC LACK OF INTELLIGENCE…Seriously? Wow are you people brain dead…you get the exact Government you vote for…this shows the voters are idiots.

What if the sun got really, really hot and shone down on the toy gun and burnt the kids hand should we pass a aw saying nothing can be made of metal because it gets hot and could burn some innocent person?

Yeah, just what we need — more asinine superfluous laws based on what some taxpayer-leeching worthless “legislator” deems to be an “issue.”

Pretty soon there will be a law against using two-ply toilet paper on weekdays.

So the cop is supposed to wait until he gets shot to see if the gun is real?

I’m from a city outside of Detroit. We have been asking them this question for decades. Well, here’s the answer. They vote all the left loons in and when everything falls apart they cry to Lansing for money to get out of trouble. Lansing always pulls them out. When you ask our state legislators why they do this, they tell us that Detroit is too important to fall. No one in Michigan wants riots or trouble in the streets ever again. So, blackmail would be the answer. Don’t expect them to vote for Republicans because Detroit does not want to loose control over the state of Michigan.

A lot of cops are pretty much useless, though, ya know? And some of them are worse-than-worthless and potentially dangerous nutjobs who should never have been allowed to carry a gun and badge.

They’re good for revenue generation by order of their bureaucratic masters, though, by way of pick-pocketing commuters going ten-over on the freeway on their way home from work.

Rarely a “peace keeper” around when someone might need one, though. And even then, they show up too late or sit outside the danger-zone until their “protocol” tells them it’s safe for them to “secure the premises.” Usually 40 minutes after all the damage is done.

Detroit doesn’t have a gun problem, it has a NEGRO problem! Cage the NEGRO and the problems just fade away. Segregation forever…

This is about the dumbest thing I have heard of since “I won’t have to worry about puttin gas in my car, I wont have to worry about my mortgage, if I hep him, he will hep me!”

Wow, staggeringly stupid comment…imagine this all the way from our formation as a free nation until now, toy guns were acceptable, why, because nobody gets hurt by a toy gun. So a child points a toy gun at a cop…Ive actually seen this in my life, in my day all kids had toy guns…you know the cops, back then didnt even have a vest on, pulled out his finger and shot back at us. But in you idiots minds, the cop drawing his gun and blowing away a six year old sounds acceptable?… For real? Wow…you are scary stupid. At 6 years old, kids dont even really know what dead means, they arent hung up on money, and an ice cream cone can distract them from playing even video games…but you brainiacs think a cop just pulling out his gun and shooting the child siunds reasonable…whoa,, everyone of you needs to dmand more of those who carry firearms legally…and thats that they MUST use their heads, before ever drawing his weapon…there are a hundred ways to disarm that child, none of which involves lethal force…but this nudge is like helll ys kll a child, no problem…Dude you ARE the problem. The second isuue with this is that having a fake gun is always better for everyone involved than if a criminal had a real gun…duh! Which is more dangeroys to yiu genuises…a fake gun pointed at your head, or a loaded real gun pointed at your head…the answer is obvious…a man with a fake gun will only make you think you will die, the man with the real gun will actually kill you Yet we have to listen to idiotic ramblings of stupid liberals like osamas pajamas…great.

Detroit needs to be shut down on this matter…. it is the exact equivalent of them saying that they are reimposing segregation. If it breaks the Constitution, it is ILLEGAL.

This has gone too far. Before you know it, there will be a law making it illegal to kill someone.

What’s next?; Make it a crime to think of a gun?

omg so simple a brainless wonder could fix this issue, mandate all toys guns must be made of red plastic..and leave off any major realistic detailing.

[...] Toy Guns Becoming A Criminal Offense In Michigan? Michigan state lawmakers are currently reviewing legislation that targets the use of certain toy guns. A planned proposal before the Senate would make it a crime to possess a toy gun that has its required markings removed or by having a real gun that is made up to look like a toy. [...]

Lets see, tried Painting bright colors FAIL, Tried stupid Brite Ends FAIL, tried who knows what else FAIL, suppose they carve them out of WOOD and paint them?

Why OUTLAW PAint of course.

The Beast Lives in all, just have your back against the wall, and you to will be OUTLAWED.

Let’s get MORE stupid, more Rediculous and by all means MORE GIRLIE Amerika…

That WILL Solve the problems.

all you people are idiots.

I think your buddy is a BS artist.. First off it isn’t a citation offense and second weapons (basically excepting pistols and “assault rifles”, and other illegal to own items) that are in plain view can be carried in vehicles. And bats aren’t considered weapons unless modified in certain ways and/or used as a weapon. But what do I know I live in CA. Anybody who got his legal training off anything better than a crackerjack prize could win that one.

This is poorly written story. Read the first paragraph, then read the last one. Two completely different stories. Which is it?

Why are these idiots trying to make more laws. We need less laws.

Take the guns away from the cops. That way no one will get accidentally shot by a cop. Simple and effective.

If you obey the law and show respect to the police then you will not have any problems. However if you show disrespect then pay the penalty. I absolutely admire our policemen and women. I would not want their job. Show respect and get respect.

It’s great that Michigan,and especially Detroit have gotten their other problems so well handled that this is being front paged.
Has anybody seen the pictures of Detroit and Hiroshima circa 1946, and the pictures of the two cities circa 2012? Vote Democrat!!!!!

This is just the legislators’ admissions that they have failed miserably to fix the problem of gangs in this country. For the most part, efforts made by legislators to stop gangs is – just like this one – aimed at the law-abiding public. For anyone to assume that such a law would make even the least dent in gang behavior is beyond the pale of ignorance – but, then, we have legislators demonstrating their ignorance daily.

No! The solution can only come about when the entire criminal justice system as it has come to be is dismantled and reassembled. The entire system today exists to support those who participate in it, not to decrease crime and improve safety for law abiding citizens. Ask yourself, how many lawyers would have to find other work if criminal recidivism were reduced by 90%? How many judges? Parole officers? Social workers? Policemen? Judges? By how much would the tax burden be reduced to say nothing of the reduction in crimes against property and persons? The problem is the damned fools who cannot or will not fix the system.

Why solve real problems when you can solve fake ones and get the credit!

Excellent point about cops having become civic revenue generators by enforcing laws in which there is no victim. How much do you suppose communities rely on fines and fees generated by victim-less crime?

Here’s an idea: How about passing a law requiring CPA’s and the firms they work in to come up with ‘generally accepted accounting principles’ for reporting such information (and a ton more). Then let us mandate that every community with any authority to make or enforce laws be required to track and post the information on their websites in prescribed forms so that John Q. Public can go out and do comparative analysis about the community that taxes him.

The Internet makes possible many things that could never have been done before. Our lawmakers waste their time trying to outlaw toy guns to avoid gang violence (as if) instead of focusing on simple things that would benefit the populace. But, perhaps, legislatures are meant to harangue and harass the communities they serve as posited by Orwell.

Cutting through all the chaff, we realize that it is the breakdown of ethics
and morality in certain communities across the country that has caused us to
deal with this ridiculous law. Parents not instructing children about harming others….parents leaving loaded weapons around the house and not secured properly……children not going to church where they will be taught about moral behavior. When you research this phenomenon, you find that the downward spiral began when the welfare system was put into effect. Dependency on government leads to social decay.

Natural Selection moves at lightning speed in Detroit.

Another totally made up bs story after the coup and cover up.

Osama Obama Biden (Bi)n La(den)
One coincidence? Two coincidences?
The odds of the president’s and vice president’s last names combined having the same 9 consecutive letters as the name of the most wanted terrorist is over 5 trillion to 1.

The next election is shaping up to be as big of a sham as the last. Do you know why Sarah Palin’s bus tour was really canceled? Do you know why she stayed 30 miles away from the second debate and chose the death of Steve Jobs to announce that she’s not running? Know what leaked out? Sarah Palin and Cain aren’t in the race for the same reason, the truth leaked out.
http://PalinsDirtyLittleSecret.blogspot.com

Born and raised in Michigan. Have lived in a free state (i.e. elsewhere) since 1992. And people wonder why I say I’ll NEVER willingly move back to Michigan. Here’s yet another case in point.

I agree. Stupid can not be cured.

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Well…guess I’ll have to go and get a REAL gun. That’s still legal, isn’t it??

Yes, it’s illigal in much of Europe to have a pocket knife. When the Bolshiviks took over the airlines, the western U.S. and Alaska had buckets full of Leatherman and Gerber mult- tools, tens of thousands of $ in private property, stolen from honest U.S. taxpayers, to protect us from radical Islam. This has little to do with protecting the U.S.A..

There is no constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear toy guns.

If our law enforcement weren’t bullies and chicken sh-ts, and if the people weren’t scared sh-tless of guns because they are all pansies and have been brought up to be as dependent and as scared as children in the face of real danger – then this would never be an issue.

This law is a hallmark of how ridiculous American society has become. May collapse come soon so we can rebuild something sensible from the rubble of this nonsense.

I was raised in a society that if the local Sheriff saw a kid with a real rifle, .22, or larger, across his handlebars, or on a horse, he would ask what you were after today, trying to find out your secret hunting spots. It was low level political corruption.

Why do they need more laws? It’s already against the law to remove the red markings and it’s already against the law to possess a real gun without a permit. So I’m sure all of the gang members sitting around with real guns are going to make sure it doesn’t have any red markings. And I’m sure these gang members are going to stop removing the red markings before they rob that store. State Lawmakers are idiots.

Hey if I’m a cop and some dude points what looks like a gun at me, I’m sure not going to find out if its real or fake before I blow his brains out. If you waited to find out, you wouldn’t live long. So Daveca, you’re an idiot.

Let me get this straight. A criminal using a toy gun to commit a crime will face an additional 18 months in jail? Wake up! He is a criminal – do you really think that having a toy gun or real gun is going to make ANY difference at all in the crime rate in the Detroit Metro area.

I don’t know about half-time in America but the politicians are half-wits if they think this legislation is going to make any one safer or prevent CRIMINALS from using anything they want.

“Excellent point about cops having become civic revenue generators by enforcing laws in which there is no victim.”

Or, critically, in PLACE OF the victim. Interfering in due process and the Right of Citizens to address Government for redress of grievances (loosely put, legal action)

In other news the Democrat controlled Detroit city council has outlawed “Strike Anywhere Kitchen Matches” after discovering, as the council President stated,”You can strike these matches ANYWHERE and start a fire! It even says so on the package. What they don’t tell you is you don’t even have to be in the kitchen!”
The council released a statement supporting the measure claiming,”If it stops even one unintended fire it will be worth it.”

Later today a measure will be voted on to require all scissors be made of rubber as children could hurt themselves running with metal ones. Also in the name of hygiene a law was passed declaring all underwear must be changed three times a day. In compliance with the law underwear is to worn on the outside so inspectors can more easily check.

@ Socialist Pig

There is no constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear toy guns.”

Clearly youre a fool who has never READ the Constitution. The C grants no rights of any kind.

Id explain it, but you wouldnt understand

“No! The solution can only come about when the entire criminal justice system as it has come to be is dismantled and reassembled”

No, that entire system is un Constitutional and should never have been allowed to exist.

NO where in any Constitution is “law enforcement” allowed.

So, he wouldn’t have been shot for pointing a real gun at the cop?

Oh, I get it now, if they pass this law, the kid wouldnt have been pointing a toy at a cop.

right…

I cannot imagine any law enforcement agency, except ATF or TSA, if they ever arm them, diliberately targeting children. What happens in between, is truly sad. It is intent, on both sides, been going on for thousands of years before gun powder.

You’re the one short on thinking here.

The law says that if you reasonably believe that you are in imminent fear, you can use deadly force. Its the self defense act, if you want to look it up for yourself.

A police officer has more legal lattitude than even that.

akw , YES. Not a 6 year old but a 7 year old. The kid was playing with friends. Neighborhood busy bodies called the cops. Kid came out of the bushed with a toy gun, cop whipped out his 9MM and pointed it at the kid.

I agree, but a veteran street cop, are we trying to subdue a foreign country? Small children. We have a problem with citizens, armed in public, who is the enemy?

LOL! Morons.

Your logic is irrefutable. But never the one to pass over an opportunity to legislate behavior the democratic party will soon have legislated all manner of behavior.

Pointing a toy gun at police? Play stupid games win stupid prizes….. another attempt to legislate a stop to natural selection

The current restrictions on toy guns are inappropriate. All fully and semi automatic toys need to be regulated. if we require a similar license like Illinois to buy ammunition for caps and plastic darts and plastic BBs when can regulate the toy gun industry and prevent future problems. I am concerned by the growing problem of small mexican children obtaining illegal toy fire arms from the USA. We need to stem this growing problem. In addition we should disarm all our nuclear weapons to unilaterally placate foreign powers that we are not aggressors and take all private firearms from our citizens We also need to have orange tips on all toy knives as well to distinguish them from real switchblades and bowie knives. Snap caps and firecrackers are terrorist weapons ans also need to be banned. Large sticks and clubs are also dangerous and need to be regulated. kitchen knives need to be dull and less than 3 inches.glass bottle shall be banned as well.

They need to stop worrying about gun laws and get back to what they are paid to do. Make sure we have a republican form of government, not the republican party either, as the constitution says we are to have. Get a grip, this is non sense. And we have an unalienable right to keep and bear arms, no questions asked and no one can refuse, unalienable means can not be taken away. Most people in the country don’t even know what our highest law is, and even more don’t seem to care. There is a reason we have these rights, and they are not given to us by the government. Read the constitution people and realize why it was written the way it was. More and more all forms of government are imposing their will upon the people and saying they have the authority to do so because they are the government, and this is just a complete and total lie. The government employees are our SERVANTS not our masters.

Why don’t we just let
MURDER CITY
DIE

Don’t worry about the Union trash we build new Federal Prisons every week to provide them a home

So, what has changed? I was able to walk down our street with pellet guns and 22 cal. rifles on my way to open land. We had realistic toy guns while growing up too. What’s wrong is that a police state is incrementally being imposed on the people. it’s coming from many directions, but mostly from the U.N., who doesn’t care for our constitution or our individual rights, because they get in the way of their globalist nwo takeover of every sovereign nation!

agreed.

Ordinarily I’d say you were being ludicrous, but the IS Detroit we’re talking about here. And six-year-olds DO shoot cops in detroit. If I were a parent in Detroit I wouldn’t let my children have toy guns,,,or better yet, I’d get the HELL out of Detroit.

Any cop has a right to defend his life on the street. If I saw a gun pointed at me, regardless of the pointer’s age (especially in Detroit) I’d shoot first and ask questions later.

this is stupid. more regulation and laws because of undisciplined blacks. can you imagine how llittle activity there would be in the criminal justice system if they had never been brought here? every law is just a band-aid anyway, a knee jerk reaction to problems that shouldn’t be. the way to permanently lower crime is to ship the blacks back to Africa. it is their natural habitat and they would be comfortable there and adapt easily, they have no place in a civilized society.

When toy guns are outlawed, only outlaws will still have real guns…without guns, we cannot defend the 2nd Admendment or even ou rConstitution.

People still consider them our equals. LOL

Thats what duh teee veee told me

America with all of it’s silly laws. So much for being the home of the free.

https://allroadsleadtofema.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/entry-1/

Amen. And when the rebuild commences, interject loads of common sense.

https://allroadsleadtofema.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/entry-1/

Guess that shows how far we’ve come when we truly have to worry about 6 year olds carrying guns.

https://allroadsleadtofema.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/entry-1/

Most of you must be young and stupid and have believed all of the propaganda the media and schools tell you.

We played with guns when I was a child (but, we had respect for people). You stupid parents do not make your children mind. That’s really what scares you. DO YOUR JOB.

“If the legislation is passed, people who possess these toy guns and use it to commit a felony, would be punishable for up to 18 months behind bars and be subject to fines.”

And that’ll be enough to convince someone so BRAINLESS as to point a toy gun at a cop is a bad idea it’ll work better than getting SHOT, eh?

Yeah, “you hear about Leroy? He pointed that fake 9 at a cop the other day and he got FINED brah!! Whoa, don’t want that to happen to me!”…..

We need to find a planet to ship fools like this to ‘cuz they sure are outta touch with this one.

What we need is a law making it illegal for lawmakers to propose stupid, meaningless, and ineffective laws. Like this one.

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I suppose it’s alright to shoot a 6 year old if he takes up a karate stance against a cop. If a cop JUST FEELS threathened in any way. shoot to kill. We call this civilization??????

[...] here for the ultimate face [...]

If you’re happy and you know it, clank your chains!!

“Jones believes this proposal will be vital in preventing incidents such as this from occurring in the future.”

Isn’t removing the markings, threatening someone, especially an officer all already illegal? Enforce the laws that are there, no need for new ones that will just be broken anyway. But I guess this means that our current real gun laws work though right? Otherwise these gangs wouldn’t have to use toy guns, they’d have the real deal.

Good God Almighty! Have any of you been to Detroit lately? One (just one, though) of Detroit’s problems is gun control. The State of Michigan could solve 90 percent of its social and economic issues by issuing every resident of Wayne County a handgun. A big one. A let it be known they can use it. They’ll have a field day killing each other off and…presto!…decent people can live in peace again.

“Supporters of the proposed legislation have also cited a recent case where a police officer was forced to shoot a gang member who was aiming a toy gun without its required markings.”

I don’t get it. What is the problem? Toy or not, good riddance. The fact that he is part of a gang negates his right to live in my humble opinion!

Don’t give them any more Ideas : )

Having been a citizen of Detroit once and knowing the culture, what does a cop do when a drug gangster hires a 6 yr old to shoot anyone including cops while he sells drugs in the street… knowing cops will hesitate to shoot a 6 yr old. We are fortunate that drugs makes you stupid and the gangsters have not thought about painting the end of the barres to look like toys.
Thags, I fail to see your logic for police to not defend themselves from being shot by the 6 yr olds in Detroit.

total BS
when we where kids we use to play army, , so now it would be a crime
cops today are shoot happy.
i understand the mind set, because i would do the same thing thing you point a gun at me an i will shoot you, BUT i will also know if it is a kid to hold, an use
some common cence. before i pull the triger

Amen… stupid is as stupid does.

So, tell me how the police are to know it is a fake/toy gun? if a gang member is pointing a gun at you and you hesitate to react… you are dead.

You sound like you have no common sense or street sense.

Perhaps you lack of self respect would endanger your life.

You’re a progressive… right?

@thags – Shadow a cop for a week and your logic will suddenly appear.

Tom – this is the city that invented the Chevy volt – come on! They are wizards of intelligence!

My God! Is this what America has become? You crank up the entire legislative machinery of a State to deal with an imaginary problem with toy guns? The entire process is geared to solving the non-problem of gang members taking an orange tip from a toy guns, pointing it at a cop and being killed (hopefully) ? Doesn’t the gang-memeber deserve to take some responsibility for his own death? Does one really think that yet another law will stop some one who is so stupid as to point a realistic toy gun at an obviously really armed cop from taking an orange tip off? This is so sad on so many levels I really despair. Are we to pass a law for each and every open and obvious form stupidity takes?

Things are running so perfectly in Detriot it is understandable elected officials are looking for something to do to appear to be useful and important// sarc

Once again, black people ruin everything.
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I see Rick Jones is up to his old tricks making useless laws.

[...] people have been killed by toy guns in Detroit in the past year!?!?!?! Liberals really are stupid. (WWJ) – DETROIT – State lawmakers are currently reviewing legislation that targets the use of [...]

If toy guns are outlawed, then only outlaw children will have toy guns.

Don’t get me wrong here, but when I first saw this on my friend’s profile, I understood perfectly the logic behind this idea. When other people use toy guns to mess around, and then later threaten a person’s life, there should be some investigation before sending the person to jail, but it is still a high level of evidence. That constitutes the fact that when a mother uses a toy gun with her eight year old child, and then that child ends up dead, that the heart of it is probably the mother or the one who found the gun afterwards. When it comes to a child messing around with a gun, then I do not think there should be nearly as much time in jail as the older person (depending on how old the child is). You have an eight year old, I don’t know if they are mentally aware or not, but it depends. Common sense is a good artifact of character.

But for the most part, it’s the parent who should be blamed in relation to this whole setup.

I’m a bad guy who decides to paint the front of my real piece orange? A cop stops me sees the orange barrel and now has to decide – is it a fake gun that looks very real, or is it a real gun painted to look fake? And while the cop is deciding he gets a round through his head!

I am of the belief that in order to be a politician one has to fail a standard IQ test. legislation such as this stands as proof that me belief has foundation

Just what the dimoWits want yet another law. How about they enforce the laws they have now then worry about new ones.

I doubt they do anything about criminals now.

This has been the primary problem with the anti-gun liberals. They believe by eliminating gun ownership, they will eliminate killings. The problem is that the criminal doesn’t adhere to the law, and can easily obtain guns, as they do illegal drugs.

Detroit, a cesspool of Muslims and Blacks.

This will insure the muslim terrorist population in Detroit feels safer and will enable them to train with real, illegal guns provided by Holder and Obama.

Better ban toothpicks…there more lethal than toy guns. Are they just conditioning the next generation to get used to the idea that all guns will be banned?

so the 6 year old picked up his brothers real gun when brother was zonked out of his mind on crack. The cop knowing of all the shootings is NOT going to take a chance and I am supporting the cop. to a 6 year old death is not so real as they see cartoon characters shot on tv with holes in them and still run around. sure the poor kid did not mean to shoot the cop but he did – so what is better dead cop or dead kid???

Rick Jones needs to get a real job but probably can’t. People like him are the problem.

Guest wrote “If you’re buying your kids realistic looking guns and then not supervising them while they point their realistic guns at cops,then its your fault if your child gets shot.”

What Guest did not mention is that the above behavior is simply boot camp in America’s, er, ethnic centers.

Let’s see; I’m a criminal and I’ve decide to violate the law and commit a crime. In aid of which, I’m going to use a toy gun.

OH but wait!!! THAT’S NOW AGAINST THE LAW OMG OMG!

I guess I won’t commit that crime now that I know that having that toy gun is also a crime.

/sarc (did I really need to do that?)

They should pass a law that all legislators should be required to pass a critical thinking and basic logic course before being allowed to submit any bill for passage. Anywhere.

Let’s have a law against stupid laws.

Detroit has lawmakers? What, are they all on parole now?

Has common sense been lost in this country? Honestly outlawing toy guns. If a perp/criminal is using a toy gun to commit a crime, well then charge him as if he was using a real gun and treat the situation as such. The intent is still there from the criminal. No, but lets make some toy guns illegal! What is going to be next? Plus for those extremists, no that doesn’t mean to shot a kid who is playing or pretending to point a toy gun at a Police Officer or Citizen!
Everyday and every media article I see/read this wonderful country is doing a rapid descent into the depths of a Socialistic and Nanny State!
Where has personal accountability, responsibility, and maturity gone? Oh yeah, that is for the Politicians/Government to do for us? I forgot that!

First, disarm the public…then they will have to bow down to whatever, and whomever…

I can’t believe what I’m reading here. Does anyone have the statistics on how many police have been shot and killed by six year old children in Detroit wielding handguns? If you read these comments you would think it happens every day. What are the actual numbers? I’ll bet the number is zero. I suspect what we have here is another cowardly, pandering politician with a cure in search of an ill. I think we would all be better off if this jacka$$ would stick to actual problems rather trying to get his name in the news with garbage like this and the passage of more stupid laws which are a bane to our personal freedoms. Rich in New Mexico.

If you commit a crime using a gun, you should be thrown into jail and the key thrown away.

Little by little, all the ne’er do wells would be eliminated from society.

Life could resume the way it was before liberals took over the judicial system.

What is wrong with police shooting gang members? It should happen more often.

[...] (WWJ) – State lawmakers are currently reviewing legislation that targets the use of certain toy [...]

[...] Michigan, lawmakers are considering a bill that would make it a crime to even possess a toy gun that doesn’t have orange markings on it to designate it as a toy. It would also become [...]

THIS IS REALLY SAVE A BLACK LEGISLATION. IF GUNS LOOK THAT REAL, HOME OWNERS SHOULD HAVE THEM TO SCARE OFF BLACK INVADERS.

What street gang will risk breaking into a white home where a toy gun could very well be a real gun. The chance is not very good.

WHEN THE MOS POPULAR SONG IN THE BLACK NATION IS “KILL THE COP, KILL THE COP” THEN THE COP MUST SHOOT TO PROTECT HIMSELF

All blacks in the street today must be considered armed and dangerous.

With control freak politicians like that, is it any wonder no one wants to live in Detroit?

wonder what kind of courtroom drama followed this hero’s actions? He probably was charged with a crime for discharging his ccw in a Wallgreens.

Hahaha and the police state marches on. What a pathetic race we have become. We are scared of little kids with cap guns now.

Yeah yeah I know cops.. you just want to “Make it home alive” and that 6 year old with his roll of caps and his cowboy cap gun is just SOOOOOO Scary and dangerous lol

Thank you. Darwin was the first thing I thought of.
The cop was forced?

How about the police just catching the criminals and the courts putting them in jail? Kids would be able to be kids if the criminals were not there.

[...] Toy Guns Becoming A Criminal Offense? – CBS Detroit [...]

[...] continue  to be the “worst” president ever. After decades of minority rule Detroit has hit a new low. A planned proposal before the Senate would make it a crime to possess a toy gun [...]

@teaisstronger, you are absolutely wrong. Having a toy weapon as self defense could put you and your family in more serious danger than you realize. That is an excellent way to invite a shootout you have no chance of winning.

How much will it cost to build all those little kiddie prisons.

I doubt that you’re a true leftist, MJ. Sounds to me like you’re a libertarian liberal, a rare bird today, since most liberals are quite authoritarian. (Nat Hentoff is an example of a libertarian liberal.) Conservatives, on the other hand, are more evenly split between libertarian and authoritarian.

Both libertarian and authoritarian conservatives oppose gun control, because “If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.”

Libertarian liberals (like you, I suspect) also oppose gun control, because “If guns are outlawed, only police will have guns.”

All leftists are authoritarian liberals. All leftists are for gun control.

No reasonable person would feel his life threatened by a 6-year-old taking a karate stance. Such a legal defense would be laughed out of court.

only the strong……..or whoever leaves the friggen orange tip on…

[...] DETROIT LAWMAKERS CONSIDER MAKING TOY GUN POSSESION A CRIMINAL OFFENSE I guess that would make me a predicate felon,huh? http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/02/20/toy-guns-becoming-a-criminal-offense/ [...]

They DO want to control everybody’s property!!

The government has a legal duty to keep its citizens safe from harm from others. That is about the ONLY thing that the government is doing that is constitutional – military and law enforcement are constitutional. Now, of course there are many LAWS that are NOT constitutional. That’s what needs to be fixed.

Another stupid law to take away freedoms of Americans.
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to daveca: really brilliant logic, daveca. However if I remember my history right (my history because I lived it) Cops in Communist Cuba didn’t have to make decisions like that in the streets, because the Government took all the citizens guns. But “street sentences” were carried out if you disagreed with Castro. No trial, no questions, no defense needed- they just shot you!!! I think thats whatcha’ call “Execution in the Streets”.

[...] Michigan, toy guns have apparently replaced the so-called assault rifle as the criminal’s weapon of choice. [...]

No Professor – that was not “Well-Said”. It was EXCELLENTLY well-said!
Bravo! Will someone please tell me what the HELL has happened to our country in the past twenty years with all these assinine PC, “Feel-Good”, Liberally-conceived, ridiculous laws? We need to take this clown Jones, and every other idiot twit that proposes such stupidity,and toss them out of office on their ear!

The only ones who will suffer is the low-budget filmmakers who use toy guns in place of real ones. This law is not a good idea.

They should outlaw arms (you know those things with hands on them), then nobody can point a gun at anyone.

I own guns legally without a permit.

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